problema spegnimento

[average]

ho win xp sp2 , con su due HD . C: , da 80 giga con 30 disponibili, D:, 150 giga pieni, e un secondo HD G:, con 460 giga di cui 220 disponibili. non so se dipenda dalla quantità di dati, ma quando spengo windows, ci mette almeno 2 minuti x spegnersi, e rimane a lungo sulla schermata blu. ho provato vari antispyware, adaware, spuboot e anche tune up utilities x fare la scansione dei dischi ed eliminare dati in eccesso , ma il PC continua a metterci molto tempo x spegnersi. da cosa dipende?

GRAZIE!

[jordy80]

Originariamente inviato da average
ho win xp sp2 , con su due HD . C: , da 80 giga con 30 disponibili, D:, 150 giga pieni, e un secondo HD G:, con 460 giga di cui 220 disponibili. non so se dipenda dalla quantità di dati, ma quando spengo windows, ci mette almeno 2 minuti x spegnersi, e rimane a lungo sulla schermata blu. ho provato vari antispyware, adaware, spuboot e anche tune up utilities x fare la scansione dei dischi ed eliminare dati in eccesso , ma il PC continua a metterci molto tempo x spegnersi. da cosa dipende?

GRAZIE!

Le cause possono essere molte.. se non hai virus o simili, il problema potrebbe essere che hai troppi processi in background e quando spegni il computer windows fatica a chiudere qualche applicazione.. che antivirus usi?

[average]

Originariamente inviato da jordy80
Le cause possono essere molte.. se non hai virus o simili, il problema potrebbe essere che hai troppi processi in background e quando spegni il computer windows fatica a chiudere qualche applicazione.. che antivirus usi?

uso avast .

come faccio a capire quali processi ho in background ? dal task manager ?

ho finito adesso la deframmentazione di C: (gli altri dischi mi dice che non è necessario deframmentarli)

edit:
Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 14.52.08, on 13/05/2008
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16640)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\Programmi\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
C:\Programmi\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe
C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\Programmi\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe
C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Programmi\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Nero\PHOTOS~1\data\Xtras\mssysmgr.exe
C:\Programmi\Google\Google Updater\GoogleUpdater.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
C:\Programmi\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
C:\Programmi\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
C:\Programmi\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
C:\Programmi\ZyDAS Technology Corporation\ZyDAS_802.11g_Utility\ZDWlan.exe
C:\Programmi\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqimzone.exe
C:\Programmi\WLAN Technology Corporation\WLAN_802.11g_Utility\ZDWlan.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\Programmi\Nero\Nero8\Nero BackItUp\NBService.exe
C:\Programmi\CyberLink\Shared files\RichVideo.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe
C:\Programmi\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Programmi\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqSTE08.exe
C:\Programmi\Last.fm\LastFM.exe
C:\Programmi\Windows Live\Messenger\usnsvc.exe
C:\HiJackThis\HiJackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.it/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Int ernet Settings,ProxyOverride = *.local
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName = Collegamenti
R3 - URLSearchHook: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Programmi\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Toolbar Helper - {02478D38-C3F9-4EFB-9B51-7695ECA05670} - C:\Programmi\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
O2 - BHO: Supporto di collegamento per Adobe PDF Reader - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: RealPlayer Download and Record Plugin for Internet Explorer - {3049C3E9-B461-4BC5-8870-4C09146192CA} - C:\Programmi\Real\RealPlayer\rpbrowserrecordplugin .dll
O2 - BHO: Spybot-S&D IE Protection - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: Guida per l'accesso a Windows Live - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\programmi\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Conversion Toolbar Helper - {AE7CD045-E861-484f-8273-0445EE161910} - C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Notifier BHO - {AF69DE43-7D58-4638-B6FA-CE66B5AD205D} - C:\Programmi\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\2.1.1119 .1736\swg.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\programmi\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Adobe PDF - {47833539-D0C5-4125-9FA8-0819E2EAAC93} - C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Programmi\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RTHDCPL] RTHDCPL.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SkyTel] SkyTel.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast!] C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [{0228e555-4f9c-4e35-a3ec-b109a192b4c2}] C:\Programmi\Google\Gmail Notifier\gnotify.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HP Software Update] C:\Programmi\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Acrobat Assistant 7.0] "C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Programmi\File comuni\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroFilterCheck] C:\Programmi\File comuni\Nero\Lib\NeroCheck.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NBKeyScan] "C:\Programmi\Nero\Nero8\Nero BackItUp\NBKeyScan.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RemoteControl] C:\Programmi\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LanguageShortcut] C:\Programmi\CyberLink\PowerDVD\Language\Language. exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\jusched.exe "
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Programmi\QuickTime\QTTask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Programmi\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Programmi\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [swg] C:\Programmi\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleTo olbarNotifier.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Nero PhotoShow Media Manager] C:\PROGRA~1\Nero\PHOTOS~1\data\Xtras\mssysmgr.exe
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\RunOnce: [nltide_3] rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSectionEx nLite.inf,C,,4,N (User 'SERVIZIO LOCALE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\RunOnce: [nltide_3] rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSectionEx nLite.inf,C,,4,N (User 'SERVIZIO DI RETE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\RunOnce: [nltide_3] rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSectionEx nLite.inf,C,,4,N (User 'SYSTEM')
O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\RunOnce: [nltide_3] rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSectionEx nLite.inf,C,,4,N (User 'Default user')
O4 - Startup: ZDWLan Utility.lnk = C:\Programmi\WLAN Technology Corporation\WLAN_802.11g_Utility\ZDWlan.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Acrobat Speed Launcher.lnk = ?
O4 - Global Startup: Avvio rapido HP Photosmart Premier.lnk = C:\Programmi\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqthb08.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Google Updater.lnk = C:\Programmi\Google\Google Updater\GoogleUpdater.exe
O4 - Global Startup: HP Digital Imaging Monitor.lnk = C:\Programmi\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
O4 - Global Startup: ZDWLan Utility.lnk = C:\Programmi\ZyDAS Technology Corporation\ZyDAS_802.11g_Utility\ZDWlan.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert link target to Adobe PDF - res://C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIECapture.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert link target to existing PDF - res://C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppend.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert selected links to Adobe PDF - res://C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIECaptureSelLinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert selected links to existing PDF - res://C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppendSelLinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert selection to Adobe PDF - res://C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIECapture.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert selection to existing PDF - res://C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppend.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert to Adobe PDF - res://C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIECapture.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Convert to existing PDF - res://C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Acrobat\AcroIEFavClient.dll/AcroIEAppend.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&sporta in Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Ricerche - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Spybot - Search & Destroy Configuration - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Programmi\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Programmi\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {30528230-99f7-4bb4-88d8-fa1d4f56a2ab} (YInstStarter Class) - C:\Programmi\Yahoo!\Common\yinsthelper.dll
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/ge...sh/swflash.cab
O16 - DPF: {D821DC4A-0814-435E-9820-661C543A4679} (CRLDownloadWrapper Class) - http://drmlicense.one.microsoft.com/.../en/crlocx.ocx
O18 - Protocol: skype4com - {FFC8B962-9B40-4DFF-9458-1830C7DD7F5D} - C:\PROGRA~1\FILECO~1\Skype\SKYPE4~1.DLL
O23 - Service: Ad-Aware 2007 Service (aawservice) - Lavasoft - C:\Programmi\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Adobe Systems - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc. - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
O23 - Service: avast! iAVS4 Control Service (aswUpdSv) - ALWIL Software - C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - Service: Autodesk Licensing Service - Autodesk - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Autodesk Shared\Service\AdskScSrv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - ALWIL Software - C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Mail Scanner - ALWIL Software - C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Web Scanner - ALWIL Software - C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe
O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Programmi\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service - Macrovision Europe Ltd. - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService.exe
O23 - Service: Google Updater Service (gusvc) - Google - C:\Programmi\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
O23 - Service: Servizio iPod (iPod Service) - Apple Inc. - C:\Programmi\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: Nero BackItUp Scheduler 3 - Nero AG - C:\Programmi\Nero\Nero8\Nero BackItUp\NBService.exe
O23 - Service: NMIndexingService - Nero AG - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Nero\Lib\NMIndexingService.exe
O23 - Service: Cyberlink RichVideo Service(CRVS) (RichVideo) - Unknown owner - C:\Programmi\CyberLink\Shared files\RichVideo.exe

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[Bugu]

Beh, di processi in background ne hai parecchi...
Prova ad eliminarne qualcuno. Di solito quando lo spegnimento è lento è perchè Windows non riesce a chiudere alcuni processi

[average]

come capisco quali sono in background?
come li tolgo ?

grazie !!

[Bugu]

Sono quelli che vedi dal task-manager:

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\Programmi\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
C:\Programmi\HP\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe
C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\Programmi\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe
C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_05\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Programmi\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Nero\PHOTOS~1\data\Xtras\mssysmgr.exe
C:\Programmi\Google\Google Updater\GoogleUpdater.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
C:\Programmi\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
C:\Programmi\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
C:\Programmi\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
C:\Programmi\ZyDAS Technology Corporation\ZyDAS_802.11g_Utility\ZDWlan.exe
C:\Programmi\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqimzone.exe
C:\Programmi\WLAN Technology Corporation\WLAN_802.11g_Utility\ZDWlan.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\Programmi\Nero\Nero8\Nero BackItUp\NBService.exe
C:\Programmi\CyberLink\Shared files\RichVideo.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe
C:\Programmi\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Programmi\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqSTE08.exe
C:\Programmi\Last.fm\LastFM.exe
C:\Programmi\Windows Live\Messenger\usnsvc.exe
C:\HiJackThis\HiJackThis.exe

Quelli da togliere devi deciderlo tu in base all'uso che fai del PC. Io, per farti un esempio, il processo (C:\Programmi\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe) non lo terrei attivo perchè fondamentalmente non serve a un tubo.
Queste sono cose che devi vedere comunque tu.

[average]

si infatti, alcuni li toglierei anche io, solo che non sapevo come fare.
cmq lo faccio da hijackthis ? seleziono e faccio fix ? e poi non ripartono più quando riavvio il PC?

ciao & grazie !

[TheProjectMind]

potresti anche editare il registo cambiando alcuni piccoli parametri.
(NON TOCCARE ALTRO)

1. Aprite il registro (Start/Esegui e scrivi “regedit”)
2. Cerca la chiave [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop]
3. Cambia il valore della stringa WaitToKillAppTimeout a 3000 o meno (default 20000);

4. Cerca la chiave [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l]
5. Cambia il valore della stringa WaitToKillServiceTimeout a 3000 o meno (default 5000);

6. Cerca la chiave [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop]
7. Cambia il valore della stringa HungAppTimeout a 4000 o meno (default 5000).


vedrai che diventa una scheggia

[average]

se faccio questo non devo toccare altro con hijackthis ? o eliminare programmi in background dal task manager? anche xè non ho capito come fare ...

[Bugu]

Così però tutti i processi rimangono attivi. Gli hai solo forzato il timeout dello shutdown.
Average, se vuoi eliminare alcuni processi in background puoi farlo anche con dei tool tipo reg-cleaner