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  1. #21

    Processore

    Ciao Andy

    anzitutto ti confesso un pò di tormento per queste manovre, per via delle dipendenze che mi propone apt-get dalla versione testing.

    Nella stabile erano presenti solo

    alsa-base alsa-utils

    e li ho installati, suggerisce inoltre alsaconf alsadriver

    non mi accenna a alsa-oss sndconf

    apt-get dalla versione testing volendo installare alsa-oss mi propone questo:

    ---------------------

    Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages [3056kB]
    Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Release [81B]
    Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages [57,1kB]
    Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Release [84B]
    Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Packages [60,0kB]
    Get:6 http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Release [85B]
    Scaricato 3173kB in 41s (75,8kB/s)
    Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto
    Aggiornamento delle informazioni disponibili
    Sostituzione delle info sui pacchetti disponibili, usando /var/cache/apt/available.
    Le informazioni su 14587 pacchetti sono state aggiornate.
    root@0[root]# apt-get install alsa-oss
    Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto
    Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto
    I seguenti pacchetti verranno inoltre installati:
    libasound2 libasound2-dev
    Pacchetti suggeriti:
    libasound2-doc
    I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI (NEW) saranno installati:
    alsa-oss
    I seguenti pacchetti saranno aggiornati
    libasound2 libasound2-dev
    2 aggiornati, 1 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 947 non aggiornati.
    È necessario prendere 770kB di archivi.
    Dopo l'estrazione, verranno occupati 315kB di spazio su disco.
    Continuare? [S/n]

    --------------------

    invece sndconfig e nella stabile

    insieme mi ha installato playmidi

    dunque ok

    ora installo la parte in testing (alsa-oss) e relative dipendenze

    poi ti faccio sapere

    ciao

    Stefano
    Non arrenderti MAI !!

  2. #22

    sndconfig

    ho lanciato sndconfig

    è partito il tools di configurazione

    ha riconosciuto e installato la scheda VIA 82CXXX PCI Audio

    Eseguito il test di campinamento= fallito

    passo alla seconda parte che mi hai suggerito
    Non arrenderti MAI !!

  3. #23

    alsa

    sono andato in /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/

    la cartella sound/pci/ non c'è e si trova invece nella dir precednte (/lib/modules/2.4.22/)

    all'interno di pci/ mi porta le varie schede presenti nel test precedente (sndconfig) la via la porta come ac97

    all'interno due file
    snd-ac97-codec.o
    snd-ak4531-codec.o

    apro snd-ac97-codec.o ma è binario?!
    indecifrabile

    mi fermo
    attendo istruzioni

    sempre grazie grande Andy


    Stefano
    Non arrenderti MAI !!

  4. #24

    frugando e rifrugando

    ciao Andy

    non soddisfatto di trovare il percorso differente da quello indicato da te
    sono andato a vedere in lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/driver

    ho trovato sound/

    la apro e dentro due directory:

    cs4281
    emu10k1

    contengono comunque file "binari ?"

    ah! mi ero dimenticato di dirti che il processore è un AMD XP 3000
    RAM DDR 512 400Mhz

    2 HD con sistemi differenti (NTFS + Linux)

    Ciao di nuovo

    Stefano
    Non arrenderti MAI !!

  5. #25
    prima rilancia
    update-modules

    e guarda se in /etc/modules.conf
    compare la tua souncard

    poi dai un locate via82 (non ricordo i moduli di quel kernel ) ed incollami il risultato

    se hai installato alsa-utils
    lancia

    alsaconf e guarda se quello riesce a

  6. #26

    situazione

    Ciao Andy,


    ripeiloghiamo:

    ieri abbiamo fatto gli aggiornamenti dei pacchetti:

    alsa-oss (test)
    sndconf (stable)
    alsa-utils (stable)
    alsa-base (stable)
    alsaconf (stable)
    alsadriver (stable)

    se non ricordo male ancora qualcosa altro (dovremmo vedere la cronostoria)

    quando lancio alsa-utils o alsaconf mi dà command not found.

    Ok! ho fatto un find alsa* in file:/ e ci sono tutti (e più) gli alsa.

    ecco il risultato
    ---------------------------
    file:/etc/alsa
    file:/etc/apm/event.d/alsa
    file:/etc/devfs/conf.d/alsa
    file:/etc/init.d/alsa
    file:/usr/include/alsa
    file:/usr/share/alsa
    file:/usr/doc/alsa-base
    file:/usr/share/alsa-base
    file:/usr/share/doc/alsa-base
    file:/var/lib/alsa-base
    file:/var/cache/apt/archives/alsa-base_0.9%2B0beta12-3_all.deb
    file:/etc/alsa/alsa-base.conf
    file:/usr/share/doc/alsa-base/examples/alsa-base.conf
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.conffiles
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.config
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.list
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.md5sums
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.postinst
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.postrm
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.preinst
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.prerm
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.templates
    file:/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
    file:/usr/sbin/alsactl
    file:/usr/sbin/alsactl-0.9
    file:/usr/share/man/man1/alsactl-0.9.1.gz
    file:/usr/share/man/man1/alsactl.1.gz
    file:/usr/share/doc/alsa-headers
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-headers.list
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-headers.md5sums
    file:/usr/share/aclocal/alsa.m4
    file:/usr/bin/alsamixer
    file:/usr/bin/alsamixer-0.9
    file:/usr/share/man/man1/alsamixer-0.9.1.gz
    file:/usr/share/man/man1/alsamixer.1.gz
    file:/usr/share/doc/alsa-oss
    file:/var/cache/apt/archives/alsa-oss_1.0.5-1_i386.deb
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-oss.list
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-oss.md5sums
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-oss.postinst
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-oss.postrm
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-oss.shlibs
    file:/usr/include/kde/libkmid/alsaout.h
    file:/etc/modutils/alsa-path
    file:/usr/lib/pkgconfig/alsa.pc
    file:/home/milleeunanotte/kde-i18n-it-3.2.0/messages/kdeaddons/alsaplayerui.gmo
    file:/home/milleeunanotte_old/kde-i18n-it-3.2.0/messages/kdeaddons/alsaplayerui.gmo
    file:/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/alsaplayerui.mo
    file:/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/alsaplayerui.mo
    file:/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/alsaplayerui.mo
    file:/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/alsaplayerui.mo
    file:/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/alsaplayerui.mo
    file:/usr/share/apps/noatun/alsaplayerui.plugin
    file:/home/milleeunanotte/kde-i18n-it-3.2.0/messages/kdeaddons/alsaplayerui.po
    file:/home/milleeunanotte_old/kde-i18n-it-3.2.0/messages/kdeaddons/alsaplayerui.po
    file:/etc/init.d/alsasound
    file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Alsa-sound-1.html
    file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Alsa-sound-2.html
    file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Alsa-sound-3.html
    file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Alsa-sound-4.html
    file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Alsa-sound-5.html
    file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Alsa-sound-6.html
    file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Alsa-sound-7.html
    file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/Alsa-sound.html
    file:/usr/doc/alsa-utils
    file:/usr/share/doc/alsa-utils
    file:/var/cache/apt/archives/alsa-utils_0.9.0beta12-1_i386.deb
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-utils.list
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-utils.md5sums
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-utils.postinst
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-utils.postrm
    file:/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-utils.prerm
    ---------------------------------------------


    Qui invece abbiamo modules.conf
    -------------------------------------
    ### This file is automatically generated by update-modules"
    #
    # Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add
    # anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read
    # the manpage for update-modules.
    #
    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/0keep
    # DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE!
    # This file is not marked as conffile to make sure if you upgrade modutils
    # it will be restored in case some modifications have been made.
    #
    # The keep command is necessary to prevent insmod and friends from ignoring
    # the builtin defaults of a path-statement is encountered. Until all other
    # packages use the new `add path'-statement this keep-statement is essential
    # to keep your system working
    keep

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/0keep

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/actions
    # Special actions that are needed for some modules

    alias block-major-2 off
    alias block-major-8 off
    alias i810_rng off
    alias mousedev off
    alias keybdev off

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/actions

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/aliases
    # Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which modules to use

    # Uncomment the network protocols you don't want loaded:
    # alias net-pf-1 off # Unix
    # alias net-pf-2 off # IPv4
    # alias net-pf-3 off # Amateur Radio AX.25
    # alias net-pf-4 off # IPX
    # alias net-pf-5 off # DDP / appletalk
    # alias net-pf-6 off # Amateur Radio NET/ROM
    # alias net-pf-9 off # X.25
    # alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6
    # alias net-pf-11 off # ROSE / Amateur Radio X.25 PLP
    alias net-pf-17 af_packet # Packet socket (tcpdump)
    # alias net-pf-19 off # Acorn Econet

    alias via82cxxx via82cxxx_audio
    alias char-major-10-175 agpgart
    alias char-major-10-200 tun
    alias char-major-81 videodev
    alias char-major-81-0 bttv
    options bttv pll=1 radio=0 card=2 # card=2 for old Hauppauge
    options tuner type=2 # type=2 for Philips NTSC tuner
    alias btaudio off

    alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
    alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
    alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
    alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
    alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
    alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
    alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

    # Crypto modules (see http://www.kerneli.org/)
    alias loop-xfer-gen-0 loop_gen
    alias loop-xfer-3 loop_fish2
    alias loop-xfer-gen-10 loop_gen
    alias cipher-2 des
    alias cipher-3 fish2
    alias cipher-4 blowfish
    alias cipher-6 idea
    alias cipher-7 serp6f
    alias cipher-8 mars6
    alias cipher-11 rc62
    alias cipher-15 dfc2
    alias cipher-16 rijndael
    alias cipher-17 rc5

    # Name inconsistency in 2.4 Kernel series
    alias ide_cs ide-cs
    alias usbcore off
    alias autofs autofs4

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/aliases

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/alsa-path
    # Debian ALSA modules path
    # Do not edit this unless you understand what you're doing.
    path=/lib/modules/`uname -r`/alsa

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/alsa-path

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/apm
    alias char-major-10-134 apm
    alias /dev/apm_bios /dev/misc/apm_bios
    alias /dev/misc/apm_bios apm
    options apm power_off=1

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/apm

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/autofs
    probe autofs autofs4 autofs

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/autofs

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/bluez
    # BlueZ modules
    alias net-pf-31 bluez
    alias bt-proto-0 l2cap
    alias bt-proto-2 sco
    alias bt-proto-3 rfcomm
    alias bt-proto-4 bnep
    alias tty-ldisc-15 hci_uart
    alias char-major-10-250 hci_vhci

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/bluez

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/hsf
    alias /dev/ttySHSF[0-9]* /dev/ttySHSF
    alias /dev/modem /dev/ttySHSF
    alias char-major-240 /dev/ttySHSF
    alias /dev/cuaHSF[0-9]* /dev/ttySHSF
    alias char-major-241 /dev/ttySHSF
    options hsfserial serialmajor=240 calloutmajor=241
    alias char-major-242 hsfosspec
    alias /dev/hsfdiag hsfosspec
    alias /dev/hsfdiag* /dev/hsfdiag
    alias char-major-243 /dev/hsfdiag
    options hsfosspec dcpmajor=242 diagmajor=243
    probeall /dev/ttySHSF hsfpcibasic2 hsfmc97ich hsfmc97via hsfmc97ali hsfusbcd2
    probeall hsfserial hsfpcibasic2 hsfmc97ich hsfmc97via hsfmc97ali hsfusbcd2

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/hsf

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/irda
    alias tty-ldisc-11 irtty
    # The following is for new kernel.
    alias char-major-161 ircomm-tty

    # The following is for old kernel.
    alias char-major-60 ircomm_tty

    # To be able to attach some dongles
    alias irda-dongle-0 tekram
    alias irda-dongle-1 esi
    alias irda-dongle-2 actisys
    alias irda-dongle-3 actisys
    alias irda-dongle-4 girbil
    alias irda-dongle-5 litelink
    alias irda-dongle-6 airport
    alias irda-dongle-7 old_belkin

    # FIR device drivers.
    # options smc-ircc ircc_irq= ircc_dma=
    # alias irda0 smc-ircc
    # options toshoboe max_baud=
    # alias irda0 toshoboe
    # options w83977af_ir io= io2= irq= qos_mtt_bits=
    # alias irda0 w83977af_ir

    # To use the NSC driver on a Thinkpad laptop: uncomment the following:
    # options nsc-ircc dongle_id=0x09
    # alias irda0 nsc-ircc

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/irda

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/lvm-common
    # The Logical Volume Manager uses these block and char numbers
    alias block-major-58 lvm-mod
    alias char-major-109 lvm-mod

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/lvm-common

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/modem

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/modem

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/mt-st
    # Reset the st driver on module insertion...
    post-install st /etc/init.d/mt-st modload > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/mt-st

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/nvidia-kernel-nkc
    alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia
    alias char-major-195 nvidia

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/nvidia-kernel-nkc

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/paths
    # This file contains a list of paths that modprobe should scan,
    # beside the ones that are compiled into the modutils tools
    # themselves.


    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/paths

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/ppp
    alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
    alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
    alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
    alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
    alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
    alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
    alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/ppp

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/raidtools2
    alias md-personality-1 linear
    alias md-personality-2 raid0
    alias md-personality-3 raid1
    alias md-personality-4 raid5

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/raidtools2

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/setserial
    #
    # This is what I wanted to do, but logger is in /usr/bin, which isn't loaded
    # when the module is first loaded into the kernel at boot time!
    #
    #post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial start | logger -p daemon.info -t "setserial-module reload"
    #pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial stop | logger -p daemon.info -t "setserial-module uload"
    #
    alias /dev/tts serial
    alias /dev/tts/0 serial
    alias /dev/tts/1 serial
    alias /dev/tts/2 serial
    alias /dev/tts/3 serial
    post-install serial /etc/init.d/setserial modload > /dev/null 2> /dev/null
    pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial modsave > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/setserial

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/sound

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/sound

    ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386
    alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
    alias char-major-10-144 nvram
    alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout
    alias char-major-10-135 rtc

    ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386
    ----------------------------------

    Qui invece abbiamo il locate via82cxxx

    ---------------------------------------
    root@0[/]# locate via82cxxx
    /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o
    /usr/src/linux-2.4.22/include/config/blk/dev/via82cxxx.h
    /usr/src/linux-2.4.22/include/config/midi/via82cxxx.h
    /usr/src/linux-2.4.22/include/config/sound/via82cxxx
    /usr/src/linux-2.4.22/include/config/sound/via82cxxx.h
    /usr/src/linux-2.4.22/include/config/sound/via82cxxx/module.h
    root@0[/]#
    -------------------------------------

    perchè i comandi alsa non funzionano ?

    Stefano
    Non arrenderti MAI !!

  7. #27
    non so sinceramente

    prova a restartare alsa con il comando



    /etc/init.d/alsa restart
    poi riprova il comando
    prova anche alsamixer


    mi è tornato in mente che con la mandrake 9.1 anch'io avevo problemi e funzionava dopo vari aggiornamenti

    se vuoi provare a compilare il kernel avendo presumibilmente due computer con lo stesso harware
    è semplicissimo si tratta di quattro o cinque passaggi che non dovresti avere difficolta a fare
    ti passerei il mio file di configurazione che devi solo fare caricare dall'interfaccia del kernel
    non so che connessione hai
    il kernel si aggira sui 30- 40 mb se hai la connessione analogica è un problema
    nelle riviste si trovano facilmente i sorgenti del kernel
    stasera poi ti metto i passaggi se vuoi

  8. #28

    Kernel

    Ciao Andy

    nessun problema di connessione non sarà un granchè ma scarico a 80kbs
    in adsl

    allora vediamo, configurazione PC in questione:

    M/B ASUS A7V8X-MX
    CPU AMD XP 3000
    RAM 512MB DDR
    MODEM PCI CONEXANT
    VGA NVIDIA GEFORCE FX 5200 128MB
    AUDIO INTEGRATO VT8233 (AC97 AUDIO CONTROLLER)
    LAN INTEGRATA VIA VT6102 (RHINE II 10/100)
    CPU TO BRIDGE VT 8377
    PCI TO PCI BRIDGE (AGP 2.0/3.0)
    PCI TO ISA BRIDGE VT8233A
    CONTROLLER (E)IDE/ATA VT82C586 IDE (Apollo)
    Controlloer firewire OHCI cOMPLIANT ieee 1394 hOST cONTROLLER
    cONTROLLER usb vt82c586b usb
    USB Enhanced Controller VT8235
    USB ports EHCI Host Controller
    UHCI Host Controller
    UHCI Host Controller
    UHCI Host controller
    Mouse seriale PS2

    si potrebbe fare qualcosa col Kernel ?
    Non arrenderti MAI !!

  9. #29

    i nuovi sufferimenti

    ho lanciato alsa restart, indovina:

    root@0[root]# /etc/init.d/alsa restart
    Storing ALSA mixer settings...done.
    Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.6): done.
    Starting ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.6): no sound cards defined.
    root@0[root]#

    forse è meglio che lasciamo perdere, cosa dici?

    sound blaster risolverà i problemi (spero)



    Stefano
    Non arrenderti MAI !!

  10. #30
    per il kernel sarebbe semplice
    dovresti solo sistemare la firewire e ohci (???) prova la soundblaster ( :rollo: se gli piace )
    prima pero dovresti togliere i moduli di via da /etc/modules e mettere emu10k1
    poi al riavvio ridare un update-modules
    un altra soluzione potrebbe essere compilarsi i driver alsa piu recenti (i kernel nuovi in pratica contengono quei driver li )
    http://www.alsa-project.org/ basta andare qui e seguire le guide

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