[consiglio] linux o win?

**spode** · 30-08-2010, 11:24

salve.
voglio fare istallare sul mio portatile toshiba win 7 e linux, nella speranza che la macchina lavori più velocemente, dato che xp impiega 3 minuti per avviarsi.
i problemi sono:
LINUX:
1) quale distribuzione di linux istallare e da dove scaricare in italiano? (una e secca, possibilmente con i motivi della selezione)
2)come farò a creare video, incredibilmail e tutti gli altri software?
3) i DRIVERS?

**bootzenn** · 30-08-2010, 11:31

dai qualche dettaglio hardware sul tuo portatile, altrimenti è difficile consigliarti una distro, capire se regge win 7 e capire perché sia così lento l'xp che hai attualmente sul portatile

**bereshit** · 30-08-2010, 11:54

sei pazzo fare una domanda del genere in un forum linux!!!!!

cmq posta i dettagli del portatile, eventuali periferiche che ci devi attaccare

come ditro

ubuntu , mandriva, opensuse

guarda i relativi siti

http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/PassareAUbuntu/DaWindows

questo e di ubuntu ma vale per qualsiasi distro così ti fai un idea di base delle diversità tra gli OS

qua un po di programmi win con le controparti (non so quanto è completo)

http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Programmi

**bereshit** · 30-08-2010, 12:16

per i video non cè nulla di professionale su linux , se non forse kdenlive cinerella e il nuovo openshot , ma bisogna vedere

per incredibmail

con evolution o qualsiasi client di posta, se scrivi una mail in html puoi inserire immagini etc , insomma tutto quello che si può fare sul web

e la prima cosa che mi viene in mente come sostituto

**spode** · 30-08-2010, 12:37

0k

codice:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/30/2010, 12:29:16
       
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
           Language: Italian (Regional Setting: Italian)
System Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
       System Model: Satellite A300
               BIOS: InsydeH2O Version 1.60
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8400  @ 2.26GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 3070MB RAM
          Page File: 692MB used, 4262MB available

    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found


------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 
     Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
        Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x95C4)
         DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_95C4&SUBSYS_FF1E1179&REV_00
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Schermo predefinito
  Monitor Max Res: 
      Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6783 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 7/31/2008 15:24:50, 299008 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: N/D
         Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 7/31/2008 15:24:52, 2876928 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D684-11CF-B668-14DFA1C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x1002
        Device ID: 0x95C4
        SubSys ID: 0xFF1E1179
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_A 
 Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

-------------
Sound Devices
-------------
            Description: Realtek HD Audio output
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes

        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100



      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 7/31/2008 15:21:52, 4703744 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run


-------------------
DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Tastiera
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: USB Optical Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x1BCF, 0x0007
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
-----------
(4)
USO UNA INTERNET PENDRIVE
----------------
Gameport Devices
----------------




-------------------------
DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 72.4 GB
Total Space: 119.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: TOSHIBA MK2552GSX

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 116.4 GB
Total Space: 118.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: TOSHIBA MK2552GSX

      Drive: F:
      Model: HUAWEI Mass Storage USB Device (internet pendrive)


      Drive: E:
      Model: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T50N
 (masterizzatore o lettore)

      Drive: G:
      Model: YXYL 2ZSHURGXEZW SCSI CdRom Device
 (masterizzatore o lettore)

--------------
System Devices
--------------
     Name: Mobile Intel(R) 45 Express Chipset Series PCI Express Root Port - 2A41


     Name: Mobile Intel(R) 45 Express Chipset Series Processor to DRAM Controller - 2A40


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2948


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 2 - 2942


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940


     Name: Driver bus UAA Microsoft per High Definition Audio


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9M/M-E 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 292D


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9M/M-E 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 2928


     Name: Intel(R) ICH9M LPC Interface Controller - 2919


     Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 2448


     Name: Atheros AR9281 Wireless Network Adapter


     Name: Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller


     Name: Ricoh SD/MMC Host Controller


     Name: Controller host OHCI compatibile IEEE 1394


     Name: Controller host SD compatibile standard SDA


     Name: Ricoh Memory Stick Controller


     Name: Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller


     Name: Driver bus UAA Microsoft per High Definition Audio

     Name: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 


.2600.5512
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003

Periferiche di flusso a T/frazionatore WDM:
Convertitore a T/Sito a sito,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512

Trasformazioni flusso dati WDM:
Eliminatore di eco acustico del kernel Microsoft,0x00000000,0,0,,
Sintetizzatore Wavetable GS kernel Microsoft,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512
Sintetizzatore DLS Microsoft Kernel,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512
Decodificatore audio DRM del kernel Microsoft,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512

Video Compressors:
Emuzed H263 Video Encoder-DMO,0x00200000,1,1,,
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Emuzed H.264 Encoder-DMO,0x00200000,1,1,,
Emuzed MPEG-4 SP Encoder-DMO,0x00200000,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.5512
ffdshow video encoder,0x00100000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3461.0000
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00100000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Indeo® video 5.10,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Codec Intel IYUV,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
VP60® Simple Profile ,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
VP61® Advanced Profile,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Xvid MPEG-4 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512

Audio Compressors:
WMA Voice Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Emuzed GSM AMR-NB Encoder-DMO,0x00200000,1,1,,
Emuzed GSM AMR-WB Encoder DMO,0x00200000,1,1,,
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Emuzed MP3 Encoder-DMO,0x00200000,1,1,,
Emuzed AAC Encoder-DMO,0x00200000,1,1,,
IAC2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933

Audio Capture Sources:
Realtek HD Audio Input,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.5512

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Sint. SW Microsoft GS Wavetable,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933

Periferiche acquisizione flusso WDM:
Realtek HD Audio Input,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512
Periferica video USB,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512

Periferiche di flusso rendering WDM:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,2,1,,5.03.2600.5512

Filtri di rendering BDA:
BDA IP Sink,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512

Video Capture Sources:
Periferica video USB,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,mpeg2data.ax,

Periferiche di flusso mixer WDM:
Mixer wave audio del kernel Microsoft,0x00000000,0,0,,

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.5512
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.5512
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2600.5512

Trasformatori di flusso di comunicazioni WDM:
Convertitore a T/Sito a sito,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512

Audio Renderers:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933
DirectSound: Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.5933

Periferiche di sistema flusso WDM:
Realtek HD Audio Input,0x00200000,2,1,,5.03.2600.5512
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,5,1,,5.03.2600.5512

Componenti ricevitore BDA:
BDA Slip De-Framer,0x00600000,1,1,,5.03.2600.5512

**bootzenn** · 30-08-2010, 12:49

xp NON può avviarsi lentamente sul tuo portatile, a meno che tu abbia mille programmi con l'avvio automatico installati

stessa cosa per seven: un'istallazione pulita ci gira bene e penso che tu possa trovare tutti i driver per le tue periferiche

quoto bereshit: le distro più diffuse e user friendly ubuntu, mandriva, opensuse

**francofait** · 30-08-2010, 15:22

votate votate il sondaggio aggiornato

Che cavolo di bisogno c' era di crearci un sondaggio su questa discussione ?

**bereshit** · 30-08-2010, 15:23

ha ragione bootzen

se xp si avvia in 3 minuti cè qualcosa che non va, o hai nmila programmi all'avvio o il pc non è pulito

e anche vero che xp si incasina facilmente col tempo

in ogni caso visto il pc o linux o win 7 (che dicono essere un buon prodotto)

cmq l'hw dovrebbe essere tutto supportato di default

ps: lol

**bootzenn** · 30-08-2010, 16:52

Originariamente inviato da bereshit
in ogni caso visto il pc o linux o win 7 (che dicono essere un buon prodotto)

da xp a 7 si passa facilmente anche per i più "utonti"

**bereshit** · 30-08-2010, 17:07

ma linux è meglio di windows 7

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