[debian] sto cercando di ridurne il peso

[ateicos]

ho un hd striminzito, quindi devo ridurre all'osso debian, mantenendo tuttavia alcuni applicativi quali icewm, xchat, mozilla e vnc

quali dei seguenti pacchetti posso rimuovere?

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adduser 3.59 Add and remove users and groups
apt 0.5.27 Advanced front-end for dpkg
apt-utils 0.5.27 APT utility programs
aptitude 0.2.15.7-1 terminal-based apt frontend
rc at 3.1.8-11 Delayed job execution and batch processing
base-config 2.40.6 Debian base system configurator
base-files 3.1 Debian base system miscellaneous files
base-passwd 3.5.7 Debian base system master password and group
bash 2.05b-24 The GNU Bourne Again SHell
bsdmainutils 6.0.15 collection of more utilities from FreeBSD
bsdutils 2.12-10 Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite
console-common 0.7.47 Basic infrastructure for text console config
console-data 2002.12.04dbs- Keymaps, fonts, charset maps, fallback table
console-tools 0.2.3dbs-55 Linux console and font utilities
coreutils 5.2.1-2 The GNU core utilities
cpio 2.5-1.1 GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of
cpp 3.3.4-2 The GNU C preprocessor (cpp)
cpp-3.3 3.3.4-13 The GNU C preprocessor
cramfsprogs 1.1-6 Tools for CramFs (Compressed ROM File System
cron 3.0pl1-86 management of regular background processing
dash 0.5.1-3 The Debian Almquist Shell
debconf 1.4.30.8 Debian configuration management system
debconf-i18n 1.4.30.8 full internationalization support for debcon
debianutils 2.8.4 Miscellaneous utilities specific to Debian
defoma 0.11.8-0.1 Debian Font Manager -- automatic font config
dhcp-client 2.0pl5-19 DHCP Client
diff 2.8.1-6 File comparison utilities
discover1 1.7.1 hardware identification system
discover1-data 1.2004.09.25 hardware lists for libdiscover1
dpkg 1.10.23 Package maintenance system for Debian
dselect 1.10.23 a user tool to manage Debian packages
e2fslibs 1.35-6 The EXT2 filesystem libraries
e2fsprogs 1.35-6 The EXT2 file system utilities and libraries
ed 0.2-20 The classic unix line editor
eject 2.0.13deb-7 ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers under Li
rc exim4-base 4.34-6 EXperimental Internal Mailer -- a Mail Trans
rc exim4-config 4.34-6 Debian configuration for exim4
fdutils 5.4-20040228-1 Linux floppy utilities
file 4.09-1 Determines file type using "magic" numbers
findutils 4.1.20-4 utilities for finding files--find, xargs, an
fontconfig 2.2.3-1 generic font configuration library
gcc-3.3-base 3.3.4-13 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)

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gettext-base 0.14.1-5 GNU Internationalization utilities for the b
grep 2.5.1.ds1-3 GNU grep, egrep and fgrep
groff-base 1.18.1.1-1 GNU troff text-formatting system (base syste
grub 0.95+cvs200406 GRand Unified Bootloader
gzip 1.3.5-9 The GNU compression utility
hostname 2.13 A utility to set/show the host name or domai
hotplug 0.0.20040329-1 Linux Hotplug Scripts
icewm 1.2.16-1 wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manag
icewm-common 1.2.16-1 wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manag
ifupdown 0.6.4-4.8 High level tools to configure network interf
imlib-base 1.9.14-16 Common files needed by the Imlib/Gdk-Imlib p
imlib1 1.9.14-16 imaging library for X and X11 (using libpng2
info 4.7-2.2 Standalone GNU Info documentation browser
initrd-tools 0.1.74 tools to create initrd image for prepackaged
initscripts 2.86-5 Standard scripts needed for booting and shut
ipchains 1.3.10-15 Network firewalling for Linux 2.2.x
iptables 1.2.9-10 Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration to
iputils-ping 20020927-2 Tools to test the reachability of network ho
iso-codes 0.41-0.1 ISO language, territory, currency codes and
kernel-image-2 2.4.27-2 Linux kernel image for version 2.4.27 on 386
klogd 1.4.1-15 Kernel Logging Daemon
lbxproxy 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Low Bandwidth X (LBX) proxy server
libacl1 2.2.23-1 Access control list shared library
libatk1.0-0 1.6.1-5 The ATK accessibility toolkit
libattr1 2.4.16-1 Extended attribute shared library
libblkid1 1.35-6 Block device id library
libbz2-1.0 1.0.2-1 A high-quality block-sorting file compressor
libc6 2.3.2.ds1-16 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
libcap1 1.10-14 support for getting/setting POSIX.1e capabil
libcomerr2 1.35-6 The Common Error Description library
libconsole 0.2.3dbs-55 Shared libraries for Linux console and font
libdb1-compat 2.1.3-7 The Berkeley database routines [glibc 2.0/2.
libdb3 3.2.9-20 Berkeley v3 Database Libraries [runtime]
libdb4.2 4.2.52-17 Berkeley v4.2 Database Libraries [runtime]
libdiscover1 1.7.1 hardware identification library
libdps1 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Display PostScript (DPS) client library
libexpat1 1.95.6-8 XML parsing C library - runtime library
libfontconfig1 2.2.3-1 generic font configuration library (shared l
libfreetype6 2.1.7-2.2 FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files
libgcc1 3.4.2-2 GCC support library
libgcrypt11 1.2.0-4 LGPL Crypto library - runtime library
libgcrypt7 1.1.90-9 LGPL Crypto library - runtime library
libgdbm3 1.8.3-2 GNU dbm database routines (runtime version)
libglib2.0-0 2.4.7-1 The GLib library of C routines
libgnutls10 1.0.4-8 GNU TLS library - runtime library
libgnutls11 1.0.16-9 GNU TLS library - runtime library
libgpg-error0 1.0-1 library for common error values and messages
libgtk2.0-0 2.4.10-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface library
libgtk2.0-bin 2.4.10-1 The programs for the GTK+ graphical user int
libgtk2.0-comm 2.4.10-1 Common files for the GTK+ graphical user int
libice6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Inter-Client Exchange library
libjpeg62 6b-9 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime li
liblocale-gett 1.01-17 Using libc functions for internationalizatio
liblockfile1 1.06 NFS-safe locking library, includes dotlockfi
liblzo1 1.08-1.2 A real-time data compression library
libmagic1 4.09-1 File type determination library using "magic
libncurses5 5.4-4 Shared libraries for terminal handling
libnewt0.51 0.51.6-5 Not Erik's Windowing Toolkit - text mode win
libnspr4 1.7.3-5 Netscape Portable Runtime Library
libnss3 1.7.3-5 Network Security Service Libraries - runtime
libopencdk8 0.5.5-8 Open Crypto Development Kit (OpenCDK) (runti
libpam-modules 0.76-22 Pluggable Authentication Modules for PAM
libpam-runtime 0.76-22 Runtime support for the PAM library
libpam0g 0.76-22 Pluggable Authentication Modules library
libpango1.0-0 1.4.1-4 Layout and rendering of internationalized te
libpango1.0-co 1.4.1-4 Modules and configuration files for the Pang
libpcap0.7 0.7.2-7 System interface for user-level packet captu
libpcre3 4.5-1.1 Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expression Library
libperl5.8 5.8.4-2.3 Shared Perl library
libpng10-0 1.0.15-7 PNG library, older version - runtime
libpng12-0 1.2.5.0-8 PNG library - runtime
libpopt0 1.7-5 lib for parsing cmdline parameters
libreadline4 4.3-11 GNU readline and history libraries, run-time
libsigc++-1.2- 1.2.5-1 Type-safe Signal Framework for C++ - runtime
libsm6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System Session Management library
libss2 1.35-6 Command-line interface parsing library
libssl0.9.7 0.9.7d-5 SSL shared libraries
libstdc++5 3.3.4-13 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
libtasn1-2 0.2.10-3 Manage ASN.1 structures (runtime)
libtext-charwi 0.04-1 get display widths of characters on the term
libtext-iconv- 1.2-3 Convert between character sets in Perl
libtext-wrapi1 0.06-1 internationalized substitute of Text::Wrap
libtextwrap1 0.1-1 text-wrapping library with i18n - runtime
libtiff4 3.6.1-2 Tag Image File Format library
libungif4g 4.1.3-1 shared library for GIF images (runtime lib)
libusb-0.1-4 0.1.8-16 Userspace USB programming library
libuuid1 1.35-6 Universally unique id library
libwrap0 7.6.dbs-6 Wietse Venema's TCP wrappers library
libx11-6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System protocol client library
libxaw7 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Athena widget set library
libxcursor1 1.1.3-1 X cursor management library
libxext6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System miscellaneous extension libr
libxft1 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 FreeType-based font drawing library for X (v
libxft2 2.1.2-6 FreeType-based font drawing library for X
libxi6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System Input extension library
libxmu6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System miscellaneous utility librar
libxmuu1 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 lightweight X Window System miscellaneous ut
libxp6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System printing extension library
libxpm4 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X pixmap library
libxrandr2 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System Resize, Rotate and Reflectio
libxrender1 0.8.3-7 X Rendering Extension client library
libxt6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Toolkit Intrinsics
libxtrap6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System protocol-trapping extension
libxtst6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System event recording and testing
libxv1 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System video extension library
locales 2.3.2.ds1-16 GNU C Library: National Language (locale) da
login 4.0.3-30.1 System login tools
logrotate 3.7-2 Log rotation utility
rc mailx 8.1.2-0.200405 A simple mail user agent
makedev 2.3.1-75 Creates device files in /dev
man-db 2.4.2-19 The on-line manual pager
manpages 1.67-2 Manual pages about using a GNU/Linux system
mawk 1.3.3-11 a pattern scanning and text processing langu
menu 2.1.18 Provides update-menus functions for some app
modutils 2.4.26-1 Linux module utilities
mount 2.12-10 Tools for mounting and manipulating filesyst
mozilla 1.7.3-5 The Mozilla Internet application suite - met
mozilla-browse 1.7.3-5 The Mozilla Internet application suite - cor
mozilla-mailne 1.7.3-5 The Mozilla Internet application suite - mai
mozilla-psm 1.7.3-5 The Mozilla Internet application suite - Per
nano 1.2.4-2 free Pico clone with some new features
ncurses-base 5.4-4 Descriptions of common terminal types
ncurses-bin 5.4-4 Terminal-related programs and man pages
net-tools 1.60-10 The NET-3 networking toolkit
netbase 4.18 Basic TCP/IP networking system
netkit-inetd 0.10-9 The Internet Superserver
nvi 1.79-21 4.4BSD re-implementation of vi
passwd 4.0.3-30.1 Change and administer password and group dat
pciutils 2.1.11-15 Linux PCI Utilities
perl 5.8.4-2.3 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report
perl-base 5.8.4-2.3 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister
perl-modules 5.8.4-2.3 Core Perl modules
ppp 2.4.2+20040428 Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon
pppconfig 2.3.6 A text menu based utility for configuring pp
pppoe 3.5-3 PPP over Ethernet driver
pppoeconf 1.0.11 configures PPPoE/ADSL connections
procps 3.2.1-2 The /proc file system utilities
proxymngr 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X proxy services manager
psmisc 21.5-1 Utilities that use the proc filesystem
python2.3 2.3.4-13 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
sed 4.1.2-1 The GNU sed stream editor
slang1a-utf8 1.4.9dbs-8 The S-Lang programming library with utf8 sup
sysklogd 1.4.1-15 System Logging Daemon
sysv-rc 2.86-5 Standard boot mechanism using symlinks in /e
sysvinit 2.86-5 System-V like init
tar 1.13.93-4 GNU tar
tasksel 2.12 Tool for selecting tasks for installation on
tcl8.4 8.4.7-1 Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-t
tcpd 7.6.dbs-6 Wietse Venema's TCP wrapper utilities
telnet 0.17-26 The telnet client.
ttf-bitstream- 1.10-3 The Bitstream Vera family of free TrueType f
twm 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Tab window manager
ucf 1.09 Update Configuration File: preserves user ch
usbutils 0.11+cvs200403 USB console utilities
util-linux 2.12-10 Miscellaneous system utilities
wget 1.9.1-8 retrieves files from the web
whiptail 0.51.6-5 Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from she
x-window-syste 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System
x-window-syste 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System core components
xbase-clients 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 miscellaneous X clients
xchat 2.0.10-0.3 IRC client for X similar to AmIRC
xchat-common 2.0.10-0.3 Common files for X-Chat
xdm 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X display manager
xfonts-100dpi 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 100 dpi fonts for X
xfonts-75dpi 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 75 dpi fonts for X
xfonts-base 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 standard fonts for X
xfonts-scalabl 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 scalable fonts for X
xfree86-common 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
xfs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X font server
xfwp 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X firewall proxy server
xlibmesa-dri 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Mesa 3D graphics library modules [XFree86]
xlibmesa-gl 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Mesa 3D graphics library [XFree86]
xlibmesa-glu 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Mesa OpenGL utility library [XFree86]
xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System client libraries metapackage
xlibs-data 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System client data
xnest 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 nested X server
xprt-common 0.0.9.final.00 Xprint - the X11 print system (configuration
xprt-xprintorg 0.0.9.final.00 Xprint - the X11 print system from xprint.or
xserver-common 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 files and utilities common to all X servers
xserver-xfree8 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 the XFree86 X server
xterm 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X terminal emulator
xutils 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X Window System utility programs
xvfb 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 virtual framebuffer X server
zlib1g 1.2.1.1-7 compression library - runtime

[Ikitt]

Originariamente inviato da ateicos
ho un hd striminzito, quindi devo ridurre all'osso debian, mantenendo tuttavia alcuni applicativi quali icewm, xchat, mozilla e vnc
quali dei seguenti pacchetti posso rimuovere?

A spanne, salvo dipendenze inattese:

aptitude 0.2.15.7-1 terminal-based apt frontend
bsdmainutils 6.0.15 collection of more utilities from FreeBSD
bsdutils 2.12-10 Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite
dash 0.5.1-3 The Debian Almquist Shell
dhcp-client 2.0pl5-19 DHCP Client
diff 2.8.1-6 File comparison utilities
dselect 1.10.23 a user tool to manage Debian packages
fdutils 5.4-20040228-1 Linux floppy utilities
gcc-3.3-base 3.3.4-13 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) gettext-base 0.14.1-5 GNU Internationalization utilities for the b
hotplug 0.0.20040329-1 Linux Hotplug Scripts
imlib-base 1.9.14-16 Common files needed by the Imlib/Gdk-Imlib p
imlib1 1.9.14-16 imaging library for X and X11 (using libpng2
ipchains 1.3.10-15 Network firewalling for Linux 2.2.x
lbxproxy 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Low Bandwidth X (LBX) proxy server
libdb1-compat 2.1.3-7 The Berkeley database routines [glibc 2.0/2.
libdiscover1 1.7.1 hardware identification library
liblzo1 1.08-1.2 A real-time data compression library
libpcap0.7 0.7.2-7 System interface for user-level packet captu
libsigc++-1.2- 1.2.5-1 Type-safe Signal Framework for C++ - runtime
libtiff4 3.6.1-2 Tag Image File Format library
mawk 1.3.3-11 a pattern scanning and text processing langu
nvi 1.79-21 4.4BSD re-implementation of vi
proxymngr 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X proxy services manager
python2.3 2.3.4-13 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
sed 4.1.2-1 The GNU sed stream editor
tcl8.4 8.4.7-1 Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-t
twm 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Tab window manager
xvfb 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 virtual framebuffer X server

PS: un demone SMTPD ti serve...
PPS: per python, mawk e tcl lo dico a malincuore, ma tant'e`

[ateicos]

Originariamente inviato da Ikitt
A spanne, salvo dipendenze inattese:

aptitude 0.2.15.7-1 terminal-based apt frontend
bsdmainutils 6.0.15 collection of more utilities from FreeBSD
bsdutils 2.12-10 Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite
dash 0.5.1-3 The Debian Almquist Shell
dhcp-client 2.0pl5-19 DHCP Client
diff 2.8.1-6 File comparison utilities
dselect 1.10.23 a user tool to manage Debian packages
fdutils 5.4-20040228-1 Linux floppy utilities
gcc-3.3-base 3.3.4-13 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) gettext-base 0.14.1-5 GNU Internationalization utilities for the b
hotplug 0.0.20040329-1 Linux Hotplug Scripts
imlib-base 1.9.14-16 Common files needed by the Imlib/Gdk-Imlib p
imlib1 1.9.14-16 imaging library for X and X11 (using libpng2
ipchains 1.3.10-15 Network firewalling for Linux 2.2.x
lbxproxy 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Low Bandwidth X (LBX) proxy server
libdb1-compat 2.1.3-7 The Berkeley database routines [glibc 2.0/2.
libdiscover1 1.7.1 hardware identification library
liblzo1 1.08-1.2 A real-time data compression library
libpcap0.7 0.7.2-7 System interface for user-level packet captu
libsigc++-1.2- 1.2.5-1 Type-safe Signal Framework for C++ - runtime
libtiff4 3.6.1-2 Tag Image File Format library
mawk 1.3.3-11 a pattern scanning and text processing langu
nvi 1.79-21 4.4BSD re-implementation of vi
proxymngr 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X proxy services manager
python2.3 2.3.4-13 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
sed 4.1.2-1 The GNU sed stream editor
tcl8.4 8.4.7-1 Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-t
twm 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 Tab window manager
xvfb 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 virtual framebuffer X server

PS: un demone SMTPD ti serve...
PPS: per python, mawk e tcl lo dico a malincuore, ma tant'e`

il gcc-3.3-base 3.3.4-13 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) gettext-base 0.14.1-5 GNU Internationalization utilities for the b
era un pacchetto indispensabile, così come altri.
togliendo gcc-3.3-base nemmeno apt-get funziona...

ora devo reinstallare da capo

[Ikitt]

Originariamente inviato da ateicos
il gcc-3.3-base 3.3.4-13 The GNU Compiler Collection (base package) gettext-base 0.14.1-5 GNU Internationalization utilities for the b
era un pacchetto indispensabile,

Mea culpa, per gettext lo sapevo infatti dovevo cancellarlo.
Comunque...

così come altri.
togliendo gcc-3.3-base nemmeno apt-get funziona...
ora devo reinstallare da capo

Ma scusa, hai usato direttamente dpkg?!? Io uso sempre apt-get remove, almeno mi segnala le possibili rotture di dipendenze, e mi posso fermare in tempo... Presumevo lo stessi facendo anche tu...

[maiosyet]

Se devi reinstallare fai un'instalallazione minima - secondo quanto riportato dalla documentazione qui debian si installa anche su 110 MB

[alkat]

Originariamente inviato da Ikitt
Mea culpa, per gettext lo sapevo infatti dovevo cancellarlo.
Comunque...



Ma scusa, hai usato direttamente dpkg?!? Io uso sempre apt-get remove, almeno mi segnala le possibili rotture di dipendenze, e mi posso fermare in tempo... Presumevo lo stessi facendo anche tu...

sì, infatti, se avessi usato apt-get non avresti avuto problemi!

cmq non potresti semplicemente reinstallare gcc senza usare apt-get e poi risistemare il tutto?

cmq se devi reinstallare, è un'ottima idea quella suggerita da maiosyet. parti dal net-installer e metti solo quello che ti serve iniziando da:

# apt-get install x-window-system <-- il pacchetto completo per X

e poi vai con

# apt-get install icewm xchat mozilla vnc

e tutto quello che ti può servire.

ma quanto è striminzito l'hd? io riesco a far stare tutto quello che mi serve per internet, ufficio, costruzione siti web (gimp, quanta o bluefish, apache, mysql, php) in meno di tre Gb. naturalmente però ho una partizione per i dati.

[ateicos]

Originariamente inviato da maiosyet
Se devi reinstallare fai un'instalallazione minima - secondo quanto riportato dalla documentazione qui debian si installa anche su 110 MB

le cose minime che mi servono le ho messe nel primo post

[alkat]

Originariamente inviato da ateicos
le cose minime che mi servono le ho messe nel primo post

e vabbe', ma te ne servono anche altre, tipo gcc !

e poi potresti mettere firefox invece di mozilla e già lì risparmi qualcosa (poca roba cmq).

.a.

[ateicos]

Originariamente inviato da alkat
sì, infatti, se avessi usato apt-get non avresti avuto problemi!

cmq non potresti semplicemente reinstallare gcc senza usare apt-get e poi risistemare il tutto?

cmq se devi reinstallare, è un'ottima idea quella suggerita da maiosyet. parti dal net-installer e metti solo quello che ti serve iniziando da:

# apt-get install x-window-system <-- il pacchetto completo per X

e poi vai con

# apt-get install icewm xchat mozilla vnc

e tutto quello che ti può servire.

ma quanto è striminzito l'hd? io riesco a far stare tutto quello che mi serve per internet, ufficio, costruzione siti web (gimp, quanta o bluefish, apache, mysql, php) in meno di tre Gb. naturalmente però ho una partizione per i dati.

esattamente 612 mega