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    brevettabilità software, l'ora del voto

    domani 18 maggio il Consiglio Europeo voterà la brevettabilità del sowtware.
    ..giorno amaro per l'Europa.. e poi si parta di democrazia.. stiamo diventando come ...

    comunque, per chi sa l'inglese, leggetevi la mail di quelli di mandrakesoft:


    Flash: Software patents - fresh news and call for action

    As a follow-up to our latest flash regarding the upcoming decision of
    the European Council to legalize software patentability in Europe,
    here are some fresh news and information on what you can do to help.

    If nothing changes, tomorrow, Tuesday May 18, the European Council,
    that is, the European body which represents all the governments of the
    European Union, will vote in favor of a directive that will legalize
    software patents in Europe. Last September, faced with a similar
    choice, the European Parliament voted major amendments to the
    directive text drafted by the European Commission, actually rejecting
    software patentability. However, the Council, ignoring all of these
    amendments, is going to vote in favor of a text that is even worse
    than the initial version of the Commission.

    Why can the Council take a decision which will be so harmful to the
    European software industry? Unlike the Parliament, which is a place
    open to the public, where Members of the European Parliament have
    had time to study the proposal and hear many positions on the issue
    in order to take a well-thought decision, the Council is a closed
    body where, due to the alledged complexity of the subject,
    representatives of the governments have handed out the file to
    committees of experts.

    These experts, who re-drafted the text and wrote position papers on
    why to vote it, are in fact mostly representatives from the national
    patent offices, backed by the heads of the legal departments of some
    big industrial companies, all of whom have a common interest: more
    patents mean more power for them, irrespective of the harm that will
    be done to the economy at large, and even to their own companies. In
    the name of "the Industry" and of "innovation", they manipulated the
    political decision-makers to make them believe that the new text did
    not allow to patent pure software, that it was a good compromise between
    the Commission and Parliament texts, and that not all of the
    parliamentary amendments could be kept because some of them were
    illegal with respect to international treaties such as TRIPS. All of
    this is plain lie.

    In fact, if voted, the text of the Council would lead to a situation
    where big companies with large patent portfolios use these to lock
    their respective markets and prevent competition from innovative SMEs,
    and where "intellectual property" companies that do not create any
    software use their own patent portfolios to collect license fee rents
    from everybody. This is the situation which is happening in the US,
    putting at risk its successful software industry. This is what may
    just happen in Europe in a few months.

    However, it is not too late. Because of growing pressure from computer
    professionals and from the public, and because they get more and more
    feed-back from the media, political decision-makers begin to get aware
    of the issues, and to have doubts about the sincerity of the patent
    lobby. In some countries, they have taken the file back from the
    patent offices
    http://lwn.net/Articles/85379/
    http://kwiki.ffii.org/?SwpatcninoEn
    and some countries of the Council have just decided to switch from a
    voting procedure without debate to a voting procedure with debate,
    as the text gets less and less consensus among the members of the
    European Union.

    You can convince even more of them to reject software patentability.
    In order to do that, please take some time to read about the issues
    at stake, and spread the information across your friends and business
    contacts, the press, your members of the parliament and your government.
    It is essential that elected policy makers get back into command of the
    situation and do not leave the patent offices decide alone.

    Here are some texts which can help you to present the issues to the
    media and to convince policy-makers of all countries of the European
    Union.

    A very readable analysis by François Pellegrini explaining
    the legal and economic issues of software patentability:
    http://www.abul.org/article191.html

    A thorough analysis by Jonas Maebe of the difference between
    the three versions of the directive, and why software patents
    are indeed illegal with respect to TRIPS:
    http://www.elis.ugent.be/~jmaebe/swp...s/paper-en.pdf

    Positions of the member countries of the European Union:
    http://swpat.ffii.org/akteure/ (add "pt", "ie", "fr",
    "de", "be", "gr", etc to have the positions of the
    member countries)

    The page of the FFII giving some directions for actions:
    http://kwiki.ffii.org/?LtrSmePolit0405En

    A recent paper published in the Washington Post describing the
    current situation in the United States:
    "Patenting Air or Protecting Property? Information Age Invents a New Problem"
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

    31 companies sued for using the JPEG image format (the plaintiff
    filed for a patent while recommending the adoption in international
    bodies of a standard including its patented technology):
    http://www.wired.com/news/business/0...3Dwn_bizhead_1

    A US company sues companies of on-line content distribution:
    http://www.e-data.com/
    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5205529.html
    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5144097.html

    A well-documented file on the reference site Law.com:
    http://www.law.com/jsp/statearchive....id=ZZZV4RVSSPC

    Thank you very much for your help.

    Mandrakesoft Online Team.
    Antonello
    http://www.lobianco.org/antonello
    http://www.ilforestale.org

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    non si potrebbe avere un riassuntino x ki non sa l'inglese?
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    Re: brevettabilità software, l'ora del voto

    Ora vado a dormire che sono stanchissimo, per domani pomeriggio per chi è interessato scrivo la traduzione...almeno mi rendo utile


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    Se si può...postatela in rilievo, così non va sotto!!!

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    a che ora votano? L'hanno gia` fatto? A quando i risultati?
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    Ho buttato giù un tentativo di traduzione, ma c'e' qualche frasetta che non ho capito

    Chi voglia raffinarla e completarla benvenga

    If nothing changes, tomorrow, Tuesday May 18, the European Council,
    that is, the European body which represents all the governments of the
    European Union, will vote in favor of a directive that will legalize
    software patents in Europe. Last September, faced with a similar
    choice, the European Parliament voted major amendments to the
    directive text drafted by the European Commission, actually rejecting
    software patentability. However, the Council, ignoring all of these
    amendments, is going to vote in favor of a text that is even worse
    than the initial version of the Commission.


    /* Se nulla cambierà, domani. Martedi 18 Maggio, il Concilio Europeo,
    che è il cporo europeo che rappresenta tutti i governi dell'UE, voterà
    in favore della direttiva per la legalizzazione dei brevetti software
    in europa. Lo scorso Settempbre, con una scelta simile, il parlamento
    europeo votò per grandi cambiamenti alla direttiva disegnata dalla
    Commissione Europea, che attualmente rigetta la brevettabilità del software.
    Ad ogni modo il Concilio, ignorando questi cambiamenti, ha intenzione di votare
    in favore di un testo che è ancora più cannato della versione iniziale della
    Commissione. */


    Why can the Council take a decision which will be so harmful to the
    European software industry? Unlike the Parliament, which is a place
    open to the public, where Members of the European Parliament have
    had time to study the proposal and hear many positions on the issue
    in order to take a well-thought decision, the Council is a closed
    body where, due to the alledged complexity of the subject,
    representatives of the governments have handed out the file to
    committees of experts.

    /*

    Perchè il concilio prende decisioni che saranò così dannose per l'industria
    europea del software? Diversametne dal parlamento, che è un posto aperto
    al pubblico, dove i memberi del parlamento europeo hanno la possibilità
    di prendere le migliori decisioni, il concilio è un corpo chiuso dove,
    (due to the alledged complexity of the subject), i rappresentanti
    dei doverni hanno sottoposto il progetto a un comitato di esperti.
    */


    These experts, who re-drafted the text and wrote position papers on
    why to vote it, are in fact mostly representatives from the national
    patent offices, backed by the heads of the legal departments of some
    big industrial companies, all of whom have a common interest: more
    patents mean more power for them, irrespective of the harm that will
    be done to the economy at large, and even to their own companies. In
    the name of "the Industry" and of "innovation", they manipulated the
    political decision-makers to make them believe that the new text did
    not allow to patent pure software, that it was a good compromise between
    the Commission and Parliament texts, and that not all of the
    parliamentary amendments could be kept because some of them were
    illegal with respect to international treaties such as TRIPS. All of
    this is plain lie.

    /*
    Questi esperti, che ri-disegnarono il progetto e scrissero giornali
    propagandistici sul perchè votarlo, sono infatti principalmente rappresentati
    dagli uffici nazionali dei brevetti, sostenuti dai capi dei servizi
    giuridici di alcune grandi aziende industriali, i quali hanno tutti un interesse
    comune: più brevetti significano più lavoro per loro, indipendentemente dal dann che
    dal dann che avverà all'economia nel suo insieme e perfino alle loro proprie aziende.
    In nome dell' "industria" e dell'"innovazione", essi hanno manipolato (letteralmente:
    i politici che prendono decisioni) per convincerli a credere che il nuovo testo
    non permettesse di prevettare il software 'puro' (pure), che fosse un buon compromesso
    tra i testi della commissione e del parlamento e che tutte le correzioni parlamentari
    potrebbero essere mantenute perchè alcune di esse erano illegali ai trattai
    internazionali come TRIPS.
    Tutto questo è ovviamente una bugia.
    */



    In fact, if voted, the text of the Council would lead to a situation
    where big companies with large patent portfolios use these to lock
    their respective markets and prevent competition from innovative SMEs,
    and where "intellectual property" companies that do not create any
    software use their own patent portfolios to collect license fee rents
    from everybody. This is the situation which is happening in the US,
    putting at risk its successful software industry. This is what may
    just happen in Europe in a few months.


    /*
    Infatti, se votato, il testo del Consiglio porterebbe ad una situazione
    dove le aziende grandi con grandi cartelle di brevetto usano questi per bloccare
    i loro rispettivi mercati e prevenire la concorrenza da parte di aziende
    innovative (credo) e dove la "proprietà intellettuale" comporta che non generino
    alcun uso del software usando le loro stesse cartelle di brevetto riscuotere
    la tassa dell'autorizzazione affitta da tutti. Qesta è la situazione che
    negli Stati Uniti, che mette a rischio il successo dell'industria del software.
    Questo è quello che potrebbe accadre in europa tra alcuni mesi.
    */



    However, it is not too late. Because of growing pressure from computer
    professionals and from the public, and because they get more and more
    feed-back from the media, political decision-makers begin to get aware
    of the issues, and to have doubts about the sincerity of the patent
    lobby. In some countries, they have taken the file back from the
    patent offices
    http://lwn.net/Articles/85379/
    http://kwiki.ffii.org/?SwpatcninoEn
    and some countries of the Council have just decided to switch from a
    voting procedure without debate to a voting procedure with debate,
    as the text gets less and less consensus among the members of the
    European Union.


    /*
    Comunque, non è ancora troppa tardi. A causa della pressione crescente da parte dei
    professionisti del computer e non, che ottengono molta molta più attenzione
    da parte dei media, i 'decisori politici' cominciano a venire informati sulle conseguenze,
    e ad avere dubbi circa la sincerità degli uffici brevetti.
    http://lwn.net/Articles/85379/
    http://kwiki.ffii.org/?SwpatcninoEn
    ed alcuni paesi del Consiglio hanno appena deciso di passare da una procedura di voto
    senza dibattito ad una procedura di voto con dibattito, poichè il testo ottiene
    sempre meno consenso fra i membri dell'unione europea.
    */


    You can convince even more of them to reject software patentability.
    In order to do that, please take some time to read about the issues
    at stake, and spread the information across your friends and business
    contacts, the press, your members of the parliament and your government.
    It is essential that elected policy makers get back into command of the
    situation and do not leave the patent offices decide alone.

    Here are some texts which can help you to present the issues to the
    media and to convince policy-makers of all countries of the European
    Union.

    /*

    Potete convincerne ancora di più a rifiutare la brevettabilità del software.
    Per per farlo, per favore prendetevi un po' di tempo per leggere 'the issues at stake'
    - suppongo sia: lo stato delle cose, comè la situzione -
    e spargere le informazioni attraverso i vostri amici e contatti di affari, la pressa,
    i vostri membri del Parlamento ed il vostro governo. È essenziale che i 'responsabili delle decisioni politiche' scelti tornino indietro (into command - non so come tradurre) della situazione e non lasciano che gli uffici brevetti decidano da soli.
    Qui sono alcuni testi che possono aiutarli a presentare le 'issues' ai media ed a convincere i politici di tutti i paesi dell'unione europea.

    */

    A very readable analysis by François Pellegrini explaining
    the legal and economic issues of software patentability:
    http://www.abul.org/article191.html

    A thorough analysis by Jonas Maebe of the difference between
    the three versions of the directive, and why software patents
    are indeed illegal with respect to TRIPS:
    http://www.elis.ugent.be/~jmaebe/sw...is/paper-en.pdf

    Positions of the member countries of the European Union:
    http://swpat.ffii.org/akteure/ (add "pt", "ie", "fr",
    "de", "be", "gr", etc to have the positions of the
    member countries)

    The page of the FFII giving some directions for actions:
    http://kwiki.ffii.org/?LtrSmePolit0405En

    A recent paper published in the Washington Post describing the
    current situation in the United States:
    "Patenting Air or Protecting Property? Information Age Invents a New Problem"
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...anguage=printer

    31 companies sued for using the JPEG image format (the plaintiff
    filed for a patent while recommending the adoption in international
    bodies of a standard including its patented technology):
    http://www.wired.com/news/business/...%3Dwn_bizhead_1

    A US company sues companies of on-line content distribution:
    http://www.e-data.com/
    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5205529.html
    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5144097.html

    A well-documented file on the reference site Law.com:
    http://www.law.com/jsp/statearchive...did=ZZZV4RVSSPC

    Thank you very much for your help.

    Mandrakesoft Online Team.


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    Utente di HTML.it L'avatar di kazi
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    qualcuno sa com'è andata, emendameti, modifiche???
    gentoo + xfce4

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    ZDNet UK reports that the European Council has approved the software patent directive. "The Directive will now be sent back to the European Parliament for another vote there in the autumn as the different bodies of the EU engage in a game of legislative ping-pong. While observers expect vociferous lobbying from open-source and developer groups, reversing the Council's vote will be difficult, according to James Heald of the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure..."

    ZDNet UK riporta che Il Consiglio Europeo ha approvato la direttiva sulle patenti software. "La direttiva sarà ora mandata nuovamente al Parlamento Europeo per un altro voto dal momento che le diverse anime dell'Unione Europea hanno ingaggiato un ping-pong legislativo. Mentre gli osservatori si aspettano un intervento delle lobby dell'open source e degli sviluppatori, rovesciare la decisione del Consiglio, secondo James Heald della Fondazione Per l'Infrastruttura della Libera Informazione, sarà molto difficile..

    Spero che la traduzione sia abbastanza buona.
    Non resta che sommergere di e-mails, lettere e fax il numero più alto possibile di futuri parlamentari italiani...

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  9. #9
    Originariamente inviato da kazi
    qualcuno sa com'è andata, emendameti, modifiche???

  10. #10
    ma baffan... e questa la chiamano democrazia? Sono stati approvati gli emendamenti e loro se ne fregano altamente? Senza contare il danno per le PM italiane, come se non stessero gia` calando a picco da sole...boh, mi sa che se faccio il programmatore mi trasferisco in Cina...
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